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CaptGreg
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    11/04/09 at 10:39 AM
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5 pages of BS, just because somebody forgot to take their meds

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    11/04/09 at 11:20 AM
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Two different scenarios my friend.  Tarpon & Jewfish are protected, snook, reds, & trout are not. 




They aren't? Then why did George W Bush sign legislation granting 'game fish status' to Redfish? Why do you need a special stamp to harvest a snook? Why do snook have 6 months of being out of season and a strict slot limit? And speckled trout have seasons, possession and slot limits as well.

Those all sound like protection to me. Some is federal, some is state, all is protection legislated by the government.

I mean didn't they just pass a law to protect GRASS for cryin out loud? It's not so far fetched to think they cant pass a law on how to hold a fish.


Sorry, thought what I meant was stated properly.  Let me clarify a little differently.

All of the fish mentioned are protected/regulated in one way or the other.  But you can't harvest jewfish, & tarpon need a tag per kill to harvest.   We all should know this. 

Trout, redfish & snook are legally harvested for food, tarpon & jewfish are not.  It's not legal to boat either a jewfish or tarpon, but the others can be boated & thus handled.  So two different scenarios.

As for handling......Any fish that is going to be released should be handled with the best care possible to try and ensure the fish to recover.

If the the fish is going to be harvested,  then it really does not matter how the fish is handled does it?? 

That's why I said it would be laughable to have such a regulation made on handling fish.  Anything is possible, & if a "fish handling" regulation was ever to hit the books, I would love to know how it would be enforced?? Different to catch someone with illegal fish.  Kinda would be difficult for LEO to follow me around with binoculars and wait to see if I mis-handle a fish, & then try to prove it!

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    11/04/09 at 01:21 PM
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I don't think passing a law ( felony or misdemeanor) is the way to go much to difficult to enforce, I say Terry should get a petition started........make an amendment to the state constitution like they did for pigs!

I don't hold fish by the lip for say maybe the last 15 years, but what do you think the statute of limitations should be........ so I can throw away all those incriminating pictures that would make me a career criminal!

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    11/04/09 at 01:29 PM
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Laws and rules are generally put into place to make people do the proper thing when they refuse to self regulate themselves. This is an educational article that encourages a user group to employ best practices. Also this thread is a good illustration of a group policing itself so that further legislation would not be thought of let alone required. You can choose or choose not to employ a best practice but do not gripe years down the road when there is a new law legislating for it.


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    11/04/09 at 02:38 PM
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Every law passed is a liberty lost !


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    11/04/09 at 04:48 PM
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You said it much better than I did, Buc. Thanks.

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<P>Laws and rules are generally put into place to make people do the proper thing when they refuse to self regulate themselves. This is an educational article that encourages a user group to employ best practices. Also this thread is a good illustration of a group policing itself so that further legislation would not be thought of let alone required. You can choose or choose not to employ a best practice but do not gripe years down the road when there is a new law legislating for it.</P>
OriginalCaptFred
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    11/04/09 at 05:06 PM
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Law or no law, I have no opinion.
I cannot understand though how people who claim to enjoy fishing and the outdoors refuse to show any respect for the fish they catch.  Whether released or in the cooler, that would seem to be a basic part of being a decent human being.  Deliberatly mishandling a fish, or ignoring good advice about avoiding harm to a fish would seem as impolite and improbable as going to a virtual gathering of anglers and being rude to each other.
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    11/04/09 at 05:55 PM
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Law or no law, I have no opinion.
I cannot understand though how people who claim to enjoy fishing and the outdoors refuse to show any respect for the fish they catch.  Whether released or in the cooler, that would seem to be a basic part of being a decent human being.  Deliberatly mishandling a fish, or ignoring good advice about avoiding harm to a fish would seem as impolite and improbable as going to a virtual gathering of anglers and being rude to each other.


Hear, here!
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    11/04/09 at 07:53 PM
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Fish are friends not food!!


Then how do you explain the two Redfish filets on my BBQ right now?  I certainly would not filet my friend. 

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    11/04/09 at 08:37 PM
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Capt. Tommy Z, I could not agree with you more. Probably the most intellegent thing posted with the least amount said.

 People seriously, you are not as impressive or important as you think.

Take it easy go fishing and be smart about it.
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